I was listening to three people talking yesterday, two of them are pastors, they were sharing their experiences on some tough places in Nigeria when it comes to witches and wizards operations. They shared experience on how they (witches and wizard) have dealt with some pastors they know, directly on the pastor or the wife if the pastor can not be touched. They went on and on to say if one does not have fire in him, he or she won't be able to survive those locations.
One of then shared a personal experience he had when he was posted to one of those locations. He said when he newly got there, a woman gave him a pair of shoe, he collected it and kept it in his office. About two weeks later, she asked why the man of God did not wear the shoe, he simply replied her that the shoe was not his size, two days later the woman brought different shoes and asked him to pick one from them. He said he picked one and kept it in his car boot.
After a long time, he was doing something on the car and a man saw the shoe and said he liked it, the man picked the shoe, put it on and it was his size, so the pastor gave out the shoe. Three days later, he was called that the woman that gave the shoe to him is not well, when he got there the legs of the woman had swollen up and started decaying because the work in the shoe back fired.
What surprised me was what was said by the other pastor during their conversation, he said "without witchesand wizard, the church is not complete"
Is this this statement true and what is your opinion about it?
The thing about Christianity is that if you want to be a christian, you need to fully be a Christian and not be one-leg-in, one-leg-out type of Christian. this is because as long as you say you are a Christian, you have enemies: no doubts about that one.
To top it up, if you become a pastor, you need to be on fire as you rightly said because they (Witches and Wizards) will definitely come and test your power and if you are not standing firm, you may suffer for it.
Also, if you are a Christian, most especially, a pastor, you need to use the fire in you to fight for your family. both immediate and extended because if they (Witches and Wizards) don't get you, they would want to spread out to those who are close to you.
I feel what the pastor meant by that statement is; without such occurances, some people will not be motivated to do God's work nor serve Him.
When such miracles occur, it touches the peoples mind to want to be part of such miracle.
I think so too because with attacks or tribulations from witches and wizards...not only pastor but believers of the gospel too will be forced to get down on his/her knees to pray
Just imagine when someone who hasn't prayed for a long time see a bat in the room... you will see such a person praying heavily...
I don't think that statement is true but that does not also dispute the fact that there are no witches and wizards,the world is more spiritual than physical but the witches and wizards does not make the church complete because the church is Jesus's wife so you can't say the wife of Jesus is not complete if there are no witches and wizards
Well, He said that, you know, to get you prepared that there is no where you can't find witches, and in fact when they show in church too, one should not be surprised... They're just everywhere, it is one who need to fasten it belt and know what he's serving
The sick, the poor,withches we shall always have among us. It doesn't mean without witches church won't be complete. Who is the church?
It isn't just the building, it is us, we are the church and in every gathering not everyone is 100% perfect...sickness, demons, witches exist to increase our faith and believe system. It is no doubt many have been completely better after witnessing a pastor perform an impossibl miracle soif thiscondition does not exist, how can God take his glory
its true to say that because anything good will surely have an informant amidst them which means the witches in churches serves as informant which means they are doing great but a church without this is not dooing to good because they have no informant
My opinion is that witches and wizards are trials men of God or pastors face occasionally including Christians. Witches and wizards mostly attack or try to interfere mostly where there is powerful God's presence or a powerful christian. When you are living in sin or when the church is polluted with foul spirit there will be no need for the presence of witches and wizards, they only make manifest when they know you as a Christian or a Pastor is powerful in christ
We have true church but all we need to know is that temptation comes and the Bible has said it that we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principality and power so as a true Christian we have to be on guard by putting on the whole armour of God.
I don't think the pastor literally meant that there must be witches and wizards in a church. I just think he meant that for the glory of God to manifest, the church has to encounter such occurences
Well I believe that the statement implies that if one has to follow Christ he should be prepared to face challenges,trials and tribulations. As Christ suffers while on earth. This is why it is advisable to be fully in Christ Jesus so that one will be fully loaded by the spirit of God.
What that means simply it's that there'll always be witches and wizards to work against the growth of the church just as there is the human body and infections. But what keeps a church going is the power of Christ in them, the fire they have for Christ which they'll use against principalities and powers as the human body has the immune system and drugs to fight against diseases.
I don't share in this ideology tho. I feel the church of Christ is constantly under attack and that's why people feel there is no Christianity without witches. Christ came to redeem us by coming down to lay down his life for the sake of man kind and he came because there was too much sin in the world. I would say we should consider Christianity an antidote for wiches
That assertion is wrong, the church amongst all its functions do preach the gospel and that is the primary assignment for the church. And saying the church isn't complete without witches is very wrong.
That assertion is wrong, the church amongst all its functions do preach the gospel and that is the primary assignment for the church, and saying the church isn't complete without witches is very wrong.
the truth about all this is that
There are some so called pastors that arent meant to be called pastors rather" prophet of doom"....
Truly there are witchcrafts but if you want to overcome them make sure you are a true christian i mean""christ-like"" not just a bench warmer or a one legged christian ....
Saying that the church isn’t complete without witchcraft is really wrong. The church is the body of Christ, and there is no place for such people in the body of Christ.
I seriously believe that throat without witches and wizard is actually a church that is not working at all. witches and wizards usually attack in full Force in churches that know what they are doing and serve God in spirit and in truth and also a spirit-filled. this witches and wizards come to test them and also to push them to the limit and also to distract them and make them lose concentration from the purpose while they are in church. So witches and wizards in a particular church are there not because they are part of the church system but because they want to test the faith and power of God in that particular church.
l support it because this people always go to church they want to know the amount of fire you as pastor or some people carried and also they need to be part of the church for them to know that there is only one person with power and might which is Jesus and also to give there life to Jesus when they see the power of God.
What did pastor did to her.vthis is what I caloed back to sender.isb good men of God should be prayerful. The enemy as as a roaring lion isvwalkiis about seeking whum he will kill.v
May God deliver us in Jesus name amen.
its not very true..but there must be people who are trying to stop the pastor from doing the work of God .....and also to tempt him so God's work will not be accomplished
Well.....hes h right to an extent,we are in a generation where people believe that a man of God who doesnt perform miracle is not good enough,so if witches and wizard no dey church , which demon did the pastor want to cast out
I think what the statement meant is ,if witches and wizard does not come to your church to torment people or the pastor ,that means the church is not complete ,cos if the church is really spiritually filled and strong ,witches and wizard will definitely come to test the power of God
Witches operates in different modes. Some operate without spirit possession because they have made their mind so. But the absense of witched doesn't make the church incomplete. The mission of the church is to undo and subdue their works not just within the church but even outside the church.
He is making a good point because there is no place where there are no bad people expecially in gathering where there are more people it is possible to have evil people with evil intentions..in a church there are people with evil powers trying to stop the pastors from manifesting the glory of God in the lives of his congregation